RM Alphabox Lite Complete

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Cloned from Alphabox Lite by p2pnut, Alphabox FS 1.0 by p2pnut. See also Vazada by rmt13.

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Alphabox Lite with lower-case, numerals and punctuation. Now ready for downloading (thanks to geneus1)
Info: Created on 25th July 2009 . Last edited on 31st July 2009.
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HELP!!!! I've got a glitch in me glyphs :-(

There is a massive gap between the 'Cap Y with Diaeresis' & the 'Em Dash' ... there is a single pixel showing - either to the right of the Y or to the left of the Em Dash.

The problem is ... I have scanned across from both glyphs for 10 screen widths in either direction ... nothing, nada, bupkiss ... no sign of the elusive pixel. I have even 'rubbed out' the blank squares ... still there.

Can anyone help me to track down this cursed elusive phantom pixel before I lose the already tenuous grasp on what is left of my sanity?
Comment by p2pnut 30th July 2009
beautiful work! and very complete, respect!
the only thing i don't really like is the tilde... it could be a bit more pronounced.

and yep, there are apparently some phantom pixels spooking around on this site... i think your not the first to be haunted by one of them. we'll have to wait for exterminator meek. ;)
Comment by Tobias Sommer (shasta) 30th July 2009
Respect for the amount of work put in to complete the entire set, especially at that size. I agree with shasta on the tilde.

You're so lucky to have some sanity left. Here's to it's restoration:

There are some things about the gap that give the stray pixel away. It is about the width of a single glyph so it won't appear too far from the origin. Also because there is a large space, it indicates that the pixel is to the right of the vertical baseline, instead of the left. The preview will not display the glyphs in the particular order that they are laid out in the interface, so checking the glyph that it appears on doesn't necessarily mark the culprit. Since you have most characters filled in on Basic Latin and More Latin, the culprit reveals itself on the first glyph of the Extended Latin B set. In my experience, it is usually user error that is the cause of a stray pixel, but you might want to officially report to Mr. Meek if that is not the case.
Comment by geneus1 30th July 2009
Monumental work. It was a great pleasure to look at your glyphs, especially those with tiny details so lovingly crafted.
Yes, the tilde could be a bit more wavy, and the horizontal stroke of number 4 could be a bit lower.
Comment by Frodo7 30th July 2009
Realised that I could check things out by putting the letter width on ... all seemed normal (i.e. 1 square to the right of each glyph).

Then checked out to the left of the Em Dash ... isolated the rogue pixel 8 squares up and 4 to the left of the baseline/start point. I have marked this with a square and you can see the varmint in the middle.

I'll pass this on to Rob Meek.

Thanks for the info, comments and suggestions. I was a tad unsure of the tilde, so thanks for confirming it - I'll give it a bit of an old seeing to.

I can see what you mean re the 4 Frodo. I had set it to the same height as the middle cross bars of the other numerals. However, conformity isn't always such a good thing - as I realised when it was Nippa pointed out the same thing about the A in one of my first attempts.

It's great to get so many tips - makes it a very satisfying experience. I still feel very new to FS, but have actually been 'Structing for three months! Doesn't time fly when you get addicted :-)
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
Tilde and 4 modified
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
your whole series is very well crafted and amazing. each glyph possesses an illustrated kind of character. and each set distinct and unique. like many useful and versatile fonts, they somehow add to the text being used and transform it. great job.
Comment by funk_king 31st July 2009
Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “Alphabox Lite Complete” is now a Top Pick.
Comment by gferreira_admin 31st July 2009
I echo Frodo7: Monumental work!

I'll see if I can solve you flying pixel problem.
Comment by gferreira_admin 31st July 2009
Cheers funk_king and Gustavo.

It would be great if the kerflugginer rogue pixel could be disappeared :-)

As this has been chosen for a Top Pick (Ta for that ... yehaaaa!!) would it be more fair to remove the TP from the original Alphabox Lite?
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
Sorry for not being clear on the last post where I located the problem. Let me reword that response.

The floating pixel is located on the "Small B with Stroke" glyph, which is the first character that appears on the Extended Latin B set. The stray pixel is located within the normal editing range.

You won't find the dot in the Basic Latin or the More Latin set. The artifact has nothing to do with the "Cap Y with Diaeresis" nor the "Em Dash." The preview displays the characters out of sequence, which can throw you off. The dot appears between the "Cap Y with Diaeresis" and the "Em Dash" because that's where the "Small B with Stroke" appears.

Just erase the dot from the "Small B with Stroke" glyph and the anomaly is corrected.

Please let me know if that works out for you or if I need to explain it better.
Comment by geneus1 31st July 2009
geneous1 - you really are a bloomin' genius of the first order :-) Thanks a million.

I hadn't picked up on your first mention of Extended Latin B ... mainly because I hadn't added any glyphs there. On looking, there it was - just one little square.

I remembered that I had taken a quick look at Extended Latin B before shying away at the thought of adding so many more glyphs. I must have accidently hit the square brick when I looked in.

(note to self ... read EVERYTHING carefully in future)

I guess I shouldn't have called this 'Complete' as I chickened out from the Extended Latin sets ... still ... one fine day perhaps I'll finish it
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
geneus1's deduction of the problem was truly brilliant. it sounded like sherlock holmes solving the mystery of the stray glyph :) very entertaining and engaging. this place is so much fun.
Comment by funk_king 31st July 2009
Have you thought of curving the top of the lower case f?
Comment by djnippa 31st July 2009
Hi nippa - spotted the runt of the litter straight away.

Originally I had the 'f' like the top of the 'r', but it made the character too wide ... it looked unbalanced. I changed it, but was never completely happy with it. Your querie has led me to have another go - I think the resulting compromise works ... hope so
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
I altered a few others. g,f,r,j
You may prefer them to look like this:-
Comment by djnippa 31st July 2009
This is the preferred 'f'.
Comment by djnippa 31st July 2009
I like the 't' a lot - my original is a bit stark.

'g' 'j' and 'y' currently all have the same tail (if that is the correct term?) - I realise that I tend to standardise similar letters. I guess the secret is to allow for more freedom. Now I'm wondering whether to change all the tails ... I rather like your 'j'

Still thinking about the 'r' ... perhaps a 'j' will help ;-)
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “Alphabox Lite Complete” is now a current Featured FontStruction.
Comment by gferreira_admin 31st July 2009
Oooh err!! Thank you Gustavo ... I'll need an operation to remove the grin from my ugly mug :-)

@djnippa - thanks for the suggestions. I have ammended those glyphs. I have taken your idea for the 'j' and applied it to the 'g' & 'y' as well ... I quite like them, but will give it a bit of time to see what you and others think.

Thanks to everyone who has helped me with ideas and problem pixels.
Comment by p2pnut 31st July 2009
I like it. You did a really good job on the 3-D.
Comment by starburst 7th August 2009
Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “RM Alphabox Lite Complete” is now a current Featured FontStruction.
Comment by gferreira_admin 24th December 2009
Acctually, I liked the 'g' and 'y' with a full 'tail', like nippa's. Conversly, the 'j' looks perfect. BTW, nice font, I wish I had the patience to craft something like this. 10/10!
Comment by cooldude621972 6th January 2010
Acctually, I liked the 'g' and 'y' with a full 'tail', like nippa's. Conversly, the 'j' looks perfect. BTW, nice font, I wish I had the patience to craft something like this. 10/10!
Comment by cooldude621972 6th January 2010
love it!
Comment by Tylo 16th August 2010

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